"Raid Boss Counters - Optimal Levels"

#PokemonGO: EDIT: Seems like I should explain the purpose of this a little more. A power, or even a couple does not mean that your Pokemon is actually doing more damage when you attack with it, and that's because of the damage formula (see Assumption 4). Maybe you just evolved your perfect Scizor and scored a perfect moveset (Fury Cutter/X-Scissor) and you want to use it on the Raid Boss Alakazam. Well, from level 20 to level 29, your Scizor is going to be dealing the exact same amount of damage with it's quick move. Only once it reaches level 29.5 does your Scizor actually start dealing more damage with its quick move. Hope that helps, at least a little.A question that gets asked on the Silph Road often is "how far should I power up my Pokemon?" In a perfect world, the answer would be AS FAR AS POSSIBLE! But with increased Stardust & Candy requirements after level 30, half the CP increase after level 30, and damage rounding, the answer is faaaaar more complicated. So I've taken the Top Raid Boss Counters from Gamepress and found where the attack's Quick Move will stop increasing the their overall DPS.Assumptions:1) Raid Bosses' defense correspond to a certain level (and therefore a different CPM)Tier 4 = Level 40Tier 3 = Level 30Tier 2 = Level 252) Raid Bosses have perfect Defense IVs3) Attackers have perfect Attack IVs4) The damage formula isDMG=floor(0.5*ATK/DEF*STAB*SE)+1  A couple of things before we begin. I didn't appraise anything below level 25, so some Pokemon have a bolded 25 to denote that they haven't been fully analysed. Also, I put some of this together while running on empty, so mistakes are quite possible. Generally if your Pokemon doesn't have perfect Attacking IVs you can power it up an extra half level to reach the move floor (so a Vaporeon with 14 ATK IVs would need to be lvl29.5 vs lvl29 for a perfect 15 ATK IV Vaporeon).ALAKAZAM with ConfusionRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffGengar38.534Machamp38.534Muk37.533Venusaur3731Electabuzz36.530.5Lapras35.529Snorlax3428.5Weezing3429.5ALAKAZAM with Psycho CutRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMuk37.525Machamp3425Snorlax3425Electabuzz30.525Gengar3025Lapras2925Venusaur2825Weezing2525AMPHAROS with Charge BeamRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffVaporeon31.525Lapras28.525Blastoise2825Charizard27.525AMPHAROS with Volt SwitchRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffVaporeon3831.5Lapras3730Charizard3429Blastoise3328ARACANINE with Fire FangRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffExeggutor37.529.5Lapras3726Venusaur3426ARCANINE with SnarlRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras3225Exeggutor31.526.5ARCANINE with Bite (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras32.525CHARIZARD with Air SlashRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffExeggutor3932Venusaur3929.5Machamp31.527Snorlax3025CHARIZARD with Fire SpinRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffExeggutor3932Venusaur3929.5Snorlax3025CHARIZARD with Wing Attack (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffVenusaur3125Machamp3025Exeggutor29.525Snorlax28.525DONPHAN with CounterRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffSnorlax34.525.5Tyranitar30.525Electabuzz3025Jolteon2725DRAGONITE with Dragon Breath (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMachamp3825Weezing34.525Electabuzz3425Gengar33.525Magmar3125Alakazam30.525Blastoise28.525Vaporeon2825Exeggutor2725Venusaur25.525Arcanine2525Flareon2525Jolteon2525Muk2525Snorlax2525DRAGONITE with Dragon TailRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffBlastoise38.528.5Machamp3829.5Snorlax3828.5Flareon36.528Jolteon34.527.5Weezing34.527Electabuzz3428Gengar33.527.5Arcanine3227Muk3227Exeggutor31.527Venusaur31.525.5Magmar3127Alakazam30.525.5Vaporeon3025.5DRAGONITE with Steel WingRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMuk3927.5Exeggutor34.526Electabuzz31.525Gengar3125Weezing29.525Alakazam27.525ESPEON with ConfusionRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffGengar3934Machamp3934Snorlax3930.5Weezing3933Muk37.532.5Venusaur35.530Electabuzz34.529.5ESPEON with Zen HeadbuttRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffGengar3629.5Muk35.529Electabuzz34.527.5Machamp32.527.5Weezing3126Snorlax30.525Venusaur3025EXEGGUTOR with Bullet SeedRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffVaporeon3525.5Blastoise3325Rhydon3325.5Lapras31.525EXEGGUTOR with Confusion (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffGengar38.533.5Lapras3829.5Machamp3831Blastoise3729Venusaur36.530Snorlax35.528.5Electabuzz3529Muk3530.5Weezing34.529Vaporeon3428.5EXEGGUTOR with Extrasensory (or Zen Headbutt)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras3827Machamp3827Electabuzz37.528Weezing34.527Gengar33.528Muk32.527Venusaur31.525.5Snorlax3025Vaporeon28.525Blastoise27.525FERALIGATR with Water GunRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffArcanine2925Flareon2725Rhydon2625Charizard2525Magmar2525FLAREON with EmberRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffVenusaur36.527Exeggutor31.526.5Electabuzz29.525FLAREON with Fire SpinRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffVenusaur36.528.5Exeggutor3429Electabuzz32.526.5GENGAR with HexRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMachamp3928Jolteon35.525.5Weezing3525Electabuzz34.526.5Gengar3428Exeggutor3327.5Lapras32.525Muk29.525GENGAR with Shadow Claw (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMachamp3927.5Gengar38.529.5Exeggutor37.529.5Electabuzz34.525.5Jolteon3225Weezing31.525Lapras29.525Muk2925GENGAR with Sucker PunchRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffElectabuzz38.525Exeggutor36.526.5Gengar31.525Muk2725Jolteon2525Weezing2525GOLEM with Mud Shot (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMagmar3825Arcanine27.525Muk27.525Flareon2625Charizard2525Electabuzz2525Gengar2525Jolteon2525Weezing2525GOLEM with Mud SlapRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffJolteon3829.5Magmar3830.5Weezing37.529.5Electabuzz3328Gengar3328Muk3327.5Arcanine32.527.5Charizard3025Flareon3026GOLEM with Rock ThrowRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffFlareon37.528Arcanine34.527.5Charizard34.528.5Magmar3428GYARADOS with BiteRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffAlakazam29.525Machamp29.525Gengar28.525Rhydon2725Flareon2525Magmar2525GYARADOS with Dragon Breath (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMagmar38.525Rhydon2725Machamp26.525Alakazam2525Flareon2525GYARADOS with Dragon TailRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffMagmar38.529Flareon35.526Machamp3426.5Rhydon31.525Alakazam3025Gengar3025HERACROSS with CounterRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffSnorlax37.528.5Tyranitar3629Lapras3126HITMONCHAN with CounterRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffSnorlax3727.5Tyranitar30.525.5HITMONLEE with Rock SmashRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffTyranitar3630Snorlax3427.5HOUNDOOM with SnarlRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffGengar38.530Exeggutor36.529.5Alakazam35.527.5JOLTEON with Thunder ShockRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras3225Charizard3025Blastoise26.525Vaporeon2625JOLTEON with Volt SwitchRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras38.532Vaporeon3832.5Blastoise37.530Charizard35.530KINGDRA with Water GunRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffArcanine3425Flareon3025Magmar27.525Charizard2725MACHAMP with CounterRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffSnorlax37.528.5Electabuzz3727.5Rhydon3627.5Tyranitar3629Lapras3126MACHAMP with Karate Chop (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffSnorlax37.526Tyranitar3627Electabuzz3125Lapras3125Rhydon3025MAGNETON with Charge BeamRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffBlastoise3825Lapras3725.5Vaporeon2825MAGNETON with SparkRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras3725Blastoise3225Vaporeon2825MAGNETON with Thunder Shock (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras3725Blastoise28.525Vaporeon2825MEGANIUM with Razor LeafRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffVaporeon37.528Rhydon3326.5OMASTAR with Rock Throw (legacy)Raid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffCharizard3729.5Arcanine36.528.5Magmar36.529Lapras34.527Flareon2925OMASTAR with Water GunRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffArcanine28.525Flareon28.525Charizard2525Magmar2525PINSIR with Bug Bite or Fury CutterRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffExeggutor3827.5Alakazam29.525POLIWRATH with BubbleRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffRhydon3427Tyranitar29.525POLIWRATH with Rock SmashRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffSnorlax3929Rhydon37.528Tyranitar37.529.5Lapras32.526.5PRIMEAPE with CounterRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffTyranitar32.526.5Snorlax29.525RHYDON with Mud SlapRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffElectabuzz34.529Muk34.528.5Arcanine3428.5Gengar3428.5Flareon33.527.5Jolteon3227Weezing31.526.5Charizard2725SANDSLASH with Mud ShotRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffJolteon35.525Electabuzz3525SCIZOR with Fury CutterRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffExeggutor3925Alakazam29.525SNORLAX with LickRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffGengar27.525Alakazam2525TANGELA with Vine WhipRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffBlastoise35.525Rhydon33.525Vaporeon29.525TYPHLOSION with Shadow ClawRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffExeggutor3727Gengar33.525Alakazam2925TYRANITAR with BiteRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffExeggutor37.527Magmar36.525Gengar32.525Lapras2825Arcanine2725Alakazam26.525Charizard2625Snorlax2625Flareon25.525Electabuzz2525VAPOREON with Water GunRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffTyranitar3825Arcanine2925Flareon2725Rhydon2625Charizard2525Magmar2525VENUSAUR with Razor LeafRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffBlastoise3627Rhydon33.527.5Vaporeon29.525VENUSAUR with Vine WhipRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffBlastoise28.525Rhydon27.525Vaporeon25.525VICTREEBEL with Razor LeafRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffRhydon3729.5Lapras35.527.5Vaporeon3427.5Blastoise30.525VILEPLUME with Razor LeafRaid Boss1st Level Cut Off2nd Level Cut OffLapras38.529Vaporeon3728.5Blastoise33.526Rhydon3126.5OTHERS (specialty counters)AttackerMoveRaid Boss1st Cut Off2nd Cut OffCrobatBiteGengar28.525NidokingFury CutterElectabuzz3625NidokingFury CutterJolteon2525Slowbro/kingConfusionMachamp35.529.5SudowoodoRock ThrowCharizard35.528SunfloraRazor LeafVaporeon3728.5UrsaringCounterSnorlax36.527 TL;DR/Thoughts: Phew, long post. Stopping at exactly level 30 is probably not the besting thing to do for max DPS, though it's generally sound advice because of diminishing returns. That said, rarely do Pokemon need to be at Level 39 to reach their DPS limit (with regards to Quick Moves). More powerful moves generally benefit more from the higher levels whereas really low powered moves (Fury Cutter) won't see much improvement for many many power ups. But because more powerful moves are generally longer, the improvement in DPS has less of an impact than the sudden jumps that lower powered moves are known for (jumping from 3 damage to 4 damage per hit is a 33% improvement whereas jumping from 13 damage to 14 damage per hit is only a 7.7% increase) via /r/TheSilphRoad http://ift.tt/2v0xFOE