"10 Pokemon to 5-man (or better) all gen IV Legendaries"
#PokemonGO: We've had quite a few good topics about the best counters for all gen IV legendary raids, but I'd like to take a look at readily available options that can 5-man all of gen IV. Given that approach, I am not recommending that anyone go build this precise set of 10 Pokemon: it's easy to do better! Rather, if you are concerned that you don't have coverage for all of gen IV legendary raids, here's an interesting place to start & then add some of your own Pokemon to see how you can make it even better.To make this more accessible, I've added some constraints on which Pokemon I'll use:No Legendary PokemonNo limited moves unless they were available in the last 3 monthsNo more than 2 of the same speciesAll Pokemon are L30 ( many are viable before that too, but this makes it simpler )With that in mind, I'm going to build 2 main teams: A fighting team & an anti-psychic team. I'll reduce the # of Pokemon required by using 2 generalists and I won't build a dragon team: all the best counters are significantly harder to obtain and I can beat them with other options. Keep in mind that my goal isn't solely to get the best TTW, instead it's to ensure that a 5 man is possible while using readily available Pokemon.I'm going to measure viability by using Pokebattler's team estimator value, which models the # of trainers you'd need to defeat the raid if everyone had those 6 Pokemon. Typically you want some buffer, so I'd say 4.6 is a decent cutoff to ensure you can 5-man with similar trainers.I'm going to use Bullet Punch Meteor Mash Metagross for my 2 generalists. If you have more specialists, you should just use them instead as Metagross isn't optimized for any of these bosses. If you don't have MM Metagross then you likely have more specialists that are better anyway or can obtain some.Team Psychic Death Squad2x Lick Shadow Ball Gengar2x Snarl Foul Play Houndoom2x Bullet Punch Meteor Mash MetagrossAll three of these were available in recent events, though two of them were only available for 3 hours. Hex Shadow Ball Gengar is perfectly viable if you don't have Lick & I'll share an expanded list of psychic counters later. Note I can use psychic counters against ghost as well, so I can also reuse this team against Giratina! Whew, that's one dragon raid accounted for. If you check below, you'll see that this team easily 5-mans all the psychics + Giratina and it should be possible to 3 man Azelf + Deoxys!Pokebattler estimator scores for this team ( no friends, neutral weather, all movesets, no dodging )Azelf: 2.29Cresselia: 3.59Mespirit: 3.09Uxie: 3.73Deoxys: 1.91Giratina: 3.13Team Counter Punch2x Counter Dynamic Punch Machamp2x Counter Dynamic Punch Hariyama2x Bullet Punch Meteor Mash MetagrossMachamp is readily available from raids & Hariyama are low cost to evolve (though availability varies some by biome). There's a few other viable fighting options as well, which I'll list below. This team will easily do 4 man raids for it's intended counters & 5 man should be trivial!Pokebattler estimator scores:Darkrai: 2.90Regigas: 2.90Team Cleanup2x Counter Dynamic Punch Machamp2x Counter Dynamic Punch Hariyama2x Lick Shadow Ball GengarHeatran hard counters steel and Dialga also resists it, so we need to sub in Gengar for Metagross. None of these Pokemon are great Palkia counters, but sticking to our constraints of minimizing the # of Pokemon to raise, they do enable a 5 man raid. Once you get a Palkia you can dramatically improve your raid team by using it against itself ( even at L20 ).Pokebattler estimator scores:Heatran: 3.13Dialga: 3.29Palkia: 4.33What about Arceus? Well, it'd take too long to show each form, but the hardest type to deal with is water with an estimator score of 4.49.Try experimenting for yourself with the Pokebattler team I made: https://ift.tt/2FfzjFm. . .Other attackersI'm not going to make a full list or talk about top meta counters that are in every other post. You can go to https://ift.tt/2cCHo4D and get that yourself, but here are some other options I want to highlight to show that you don't need just the above specific Pokemon to do budget 5 mans. I am going to mention a few Legendaries here, but only ones that are available as part of gen IV.Psychic Counters ( Deoxys, Azelf, Cresselia, Mespirit, Uxie )B C Ttar - Not a budget option, but the raids are available. Definitely worth prioritizing!XS Pinsir - Readily available in a recent 2 day eventSC SB Banette - Readily available during ghost eventDriflblim is also usable, but given the recent availability of Pinsir and Banette I see little reason to go down to that tier. Note that Tyranitar and Banette can also be used against GiratinaFighting Squad ( Regigas, Darkrai, Dialga )C DP Breloom - Around most grass biomes, if not abundantC CC Heracross - If you happen to live in the region, quite availableLucario is also now available, but likely it's easier to make Breloom and Hariyama for most of us. Blaziken could be ok, but I'd recommend saving candy for community day.Dragon Counters ( Palkia + Giratina )DT DM PalkiaDB DM DialgaDB DC GiratinaDT DP Alolan ExeggutorYou can use most of the psychic counters against Giratina ( minus bug ), but counters for Palkia are really hard to obtain. L20 Dialga & Palkia are better than my budget L30 counters, so use them when you get them, even if you don't plan to power them up. I wouldn't recommend powering up Giratina at all .. but a L25 weather boosted specimen is somewhat better than the L30 Lick SB Gengar.Heatran SquadMS EQ RhyperiorMS EQ RhydonMS EQ SwampertMS EQ GolemW HP GyaradosYou can just use the fighting squad, but if Rhyperior is out, it'll jump ahead of Machamp and the others here are perfectly usable.TL;DR To make a (non optimal) team that can 5-man all of gen IV:2x Lick Shadow Ball Gengar L302x Snarl Foul Play Houndoom L302x Bullet Punch Meteor Mash Metagross L302x Counter Dynamic Punch Machamp L302x Counter Dynamic Punch Hariyama L30edit: formattingedit: moved Dialga to correct team via /r/TheSilphRoad https://ift.tt/2PTzHxk
"10 Pokemon to 5-man (or better) all gen IV Legendaries"
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