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"10K Hatch Rates and Proposed Changes to the 10K Egg Pool"


#PokemonGO: Good evening(or perhaps morning to those in Europe/Asia/etc) I have briefly talked about doing this by making comments on posts here, however the time has finally arrived and I have decided to pull the trigger a little early.I only hatched 80 eggs in the time span of early August until now, instead of the originally planned 100 eggs. While I could push myself for another couple of weeks to reach the goal of 100 eggs, I feel like 80 is quite adequate, especially considering that it is just me collecting the data. Because it is just me I understand that the hatch rates are anecdotal and are not completely indicative of the true hatch rates, but I think I have enough data to prove my point. With that said, let’s dive in.I will begin by providing the data of how many of each Pokemon were hatched from the eighty 10K eggs and using that data to then provide constructive alterations that I feel need to be made to the pool of available Pokemon based on that data. While I understand that my opinions will not be shared by everyone, I feel like the points I will make will be of the betterment of the entire community. Niantic has, for too long, kept the rates from us and SEEMS to not feel inclined to shake things up to the point of benefitting the players. Again, I understand there are casual players who will disagree, but please understand that it comes from someone who is a hardcore veteran of the game.THE DATA:Klink: 11 - 13.75%Shinx: 9 - 11.25%Absol: 10(one shiny) - 12.5%Feebas: 21 - 26.25%Audino: 2 - 2.5%Golett: 6 - 7.5%Gible: 3 - 3.75%Ferroseed: 3 - 3.75%Timburr: 5(one shiny) - 6.25%Litwick: 4 - 5%Deino: 1 - 1.25%Alomomola: 0 - 0%Darumaka-1 - 1.25%Riolu-2(one shiny) - 2.5%Throh/Sawk-1 - 1.25%Axew-1 - 1.25%SUMMARY:As you can see the data somewhat resembles the findings on the Silph Road. While I do believe if I had hatched another 20 eggs the percentages would have started to skew towards the same rates as on the Silph Road, I believe the anecdotal evidence is pretty jarring. It confirms what all of us already believe and, frankly, detest about hatching eggs in this game. While 10K eggs have always been a source of controversy for the entire community and have had controversial entries that probably shouldn’t have been present(looking at you Sudowoodo), the current state of this particular egg pool really begs the question: just how much more can we take?There was a moment in time where the egg pool consisted of Beldum, Bagon, Dratini, and Larvitar. Remember when the 20% hatch rate was Beldum? I do. But at least Beldum has a niche in evolving into a pseudo-legendary AND actually being meta-relevant in both GBL and the Raiding communities. Milotic...does not. I understand that there are casual players that do not spend as much time, and money, as myself on this game and as such there needs to be somewhat “rare” and “somewhat useful” Pokemon, such as Feebas within ALL egg pools. However, there needs to be the balance of risk/reward. A Pokemon like Feebas simply should NOT have a hatch rate of 1/5 within a pool that is so evidently outdated.We are on the verge of closing out Gen 5 and preparing for Gen 6. Why are hardly relevant Pokemon from Gen 3 still taking precedence? Furthermore, why are Pokemon that are heavily accessible via Raids also being catered to? That is where the final segment of this analysis comes in. The part where I propose additions, subtractions, and all around alterations to the pool with which I also invite the rest of the community to take part in so we can find a balance that benefits BOTH the casual player and the hardcore player.PROPOSALS:-Feebas needs to be removed from the 10K egg pool and placed into the 2K egg pool. Feebas IS a rare Pokemon in the wild. But it has been in this game for nearly THREE years now. If it is going to be in eggs, it needs to be in a pool that would make it readily accessible for those casual players that are still looking to claim their Milotic. Or...remove it from all egg pools as, again, it has been two years since it first debuted in game.-Absol removed from the 10K egg pool and placed into the 5K egg pool. Because Absol has a Mega variant I expect it to be omnipresent in Raids still for quite some time and will still be readily available for players that need/want one. If it is to remain in eggs, place it in 5K or remove it from eggs altogether.-Klink needs to be removed from the 10K egg pool. This Pokemon is CONSTANTLY cycled into Raids. However, the amount of candy to get to it’s final evolution may warrant a need to remain in eggs. So it needs to be in 2K or 5K eggs.-Shinx needs to be removed from 10K eggs. This is one where I expect to find some opposition. However, hear me out. It has been in Raids for approximately a year and half, of not longer. It has been readily available in the 10K egg pool and Adventure Sync egg pool(I’ll be addressing this pool a little later on) for that time as well. Much like the aforementioned Pokemon, I would be happy to see it moved into either the 2K or 5K egg pool.-Throh/Sawk be removed from the 10K egg pool. With absolutely ZERO meta-relevancy and no appeal of potentially being a Mega(cough, cough Audino). These can be moved to 5K or removed from eggs altogether. I live in North America and see at least 1 Throh in the wild on a daily basis, sometimes up to 5 or 6. It’s Sudowoodo/Taurus/Mr Mime all over again.-Archen/Tirtouga re-added to the 10K egg pool. While many a veteran will shudder at the thought of fossils being in 10Ks again(Omanyte/Kabuto), both of these Pokemon are IMMENSELY rare in the wild and have no other way of being obtained currently. Like Riolu, they would be more accessible to all players looking to finish their Dex if they were re-added to the pool. And if the aforementioned Pokemon were actually removed there would need to be replacements placed on the roster and I don’t see too many players, if any, complaining about the addition of these two Pokemon.-Increased hatch rates for: Gible/Deino/Litwick/Darumaka. Gible has been in the game for about a year and a half. It has had some exposure due to recent events and yet it still remains one of the most heavily sought after Pokemon in the game(I’d say the Gen 5 fossils, Axew, Deino, and Riolu beat it out). While I do believe we’ll likely get a Community Day for it in the future(it’s a pseudo-legendary, I mean come on), it’s time to ease the reins a bit. As for Deino, Litwick, and Darumaka? They are all heavily meta-relevant Pokemon and have been in the game long enough now that they could use a little accessibility.-Adventure Sync Pool Shake Up. While I’m adamant that the AS pool for 5K could use a little shake, I’m not focusing on that too much. I’m focusing on the 10K pool. I believe it is currently: Dratini, Larvitar, Bagon, Beldum, Shinx, and Riolu. It’s time to cut the roster up...by a lot. I’d say the only Pokemon on the current roster that could remain post-shake up is Riolu. As for the other 5 slots? Well, let’s consider GBL and other rarities within the current 10K pool. While some changes have been made in GBL to allow lesser-skilled players to reach the ranks required to potentially get Pokemon like Scraggy and Rufflet, I think adding them to the 10K AS pool would give further merit towards attempting to walk those 50 weekly kilometers and allow casual players an alternative method to obtaining them. Making them available in the wild would also be nice, but hey, let’s stay focused. I also think the other 3 slots could be filled by the likes of Gible, Litwick, and Darumaka. This keeps the pool current and filled with six rare and exciting potential hatched. The new pool should be: Riolu, Rufflet, Scraggy, Gible, Litwick, and Darumaka.And that concludes my analysis. I understand my talking points are based off of anecdote and opinion, but there was also a lot of time and effort put into offering them up. I’m hoping that it will spark a discussion and change that benefits all of us moving forward. Thanks again and take care Trainers!Edit: Additional point I should add now that I think about it. 10K egg drop rates in general could do with a boost. The current drop rate for eggs are as follows: 50% 2K, 35% 5K, and 15% 10K. The fact that 3% of ALL my hatches, including 2Ks and 5Ks, is a Feebas is practically robbery. via /r/TheSilphRoad https://ift.tt/2G27txt
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