"I'm just gonna rant for a moment about how bad Typhlosion's movepool is in Sun/Moon and why using him has been an absolute chore."

So I started playing Pokemon Moon a few weeks ago (I've already beat Ultra Sun) and before starting, I found out that you can get the Johto starters very early on in the game via Island Scan. So I picked up a Totodile and Cyndaquil (didn't need Chikorita since I started with Rowlet) on the first island and began to progress through the game.Now, Totodile has been a problem as well in that he's a physical based Water type that learns no physical water moves on his own, but he DOES make up for this by having numerous other good physical moves learned by leveling up (like Ice Fang and Crunch). So he's, you know, not terrible.Cyndaquil on the other hand has quite possibly the worst available movepool out of any Pokemon I have ever used in any game.Okay first of all, Typhlosion is a special attacker. His special attack is a fair bit higher than his physical, and mine came with a Modest nature (+Sp. Atk -Atk) and I also came to find that he had a lot of IVs in Special Attack and almost none in Attack. So basically, not only is he natively geared for special attack, but mine was especially geared towards special attack.So... why is this a problem? Let me walk you through my experience on raising Cyndaquil to Typhlosion.Lv 10 - Learns his first Fire move, Ember (Special, 40 Atk 100 Acc). This is fine for this point in the game so he's reasonably useful at this point.Lv 14 - Evolves into Quilava.Lv 20 - Does not learn another Fire type move until 10 levels after his previous one. In fact, he hasn't learned a single move since he evolved up until now. At 20, Quilava learns Flame Wheel, which is a physical Fire move, with 60 atk/100 acc. However due to Quilava's stats, he still does more damage with Ember. At this point my moves for Quilava were Ember/Flame Wheel/Smokescreen/Quick Attack, which is not exactly the best movepool for a lv 20 special-based Fire Pokemon.Lv 35 - Fifteen levels have gone by without learning a single other Fire type move. I'm already around the midgame here and the only change in my moveset since the above was replacing Quick Attack with Swift at lv 31. Flame Wheel is still useless as it is beaten in damage by Ember and if not for having the Fire Z-Move (which is the only way to do any sort of decent Fire damage at this point) I'd have thrown Quilava into the garbage long ago. So... What does he learn at 35? HE LEARNS FUCKING FLAME CHARGE! This is another physical Fire move that only has 50 attack power, which is less than the already useless move he learned 15 levels ago! I pass on learning this and am left still using Ember.Lv 36 - Quilava evolves into Typhlosion. A level 36, final evolved starter who's best move is still Ember that he learned 26 levels ago. And no, he doesn't learn any new, useful signature move upon evolving either. Luckily, there is finally something we can do with him! Now that he is his final stage, I can take him to the shopping mall to the only move tutors in the game to learn two Special-based Fire attacks - Fire Pledge (80 atk, 100 acc) and Blast Burn (150 atk, 90 acc, must recharge). Now, finally, Typhlosion isn't a total burden on my team! And no, before you ask, there's really no available TMs for him to learn up till this point, but I'll get to that in a moment.Lv 43 - Let's just assume for a moment that I didn't look all this up on Serebii halfway through my journey and that I didn't know about getting Fire Pledge or Blast Burn through the move tutor. It wouldn't be until I hit level 43 that I'd be able to learn a single new Special Fire type move, 33 levels after Ember, which would be Lava Plume (80 atk, 100 acc). But it just gets crazier from here on out.Lv 48 -A mere 5 levels later, after a drought of 33 levels of no new usable Fire moves, Typhlosion learns Flamethrower, which is only a mere 10 points stronger than Lava Plume that he just learned 5 levels ago. Woohoo, I guess.Lv 56 - Typhlosion learns the nigh-useless Inferno, which only has a mere 10 points more attack power than Flamethrower, by a whopping 50 less accuracy. You'd have to be some sort of moron to actually teach this to Typhlosion over Flamethrower and Blast Burn.Lv 61 - Rollout. Yes, Rollout. At 61. You're reading that right. I mean, this wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world to learn like 40 levels ago, but it's a 30 attack power (which admittedly grows over each turn it repeats) physical-based Rock move on a level 61 special-based Fire Pokemon. Whoever programmed this moveset must have done so as some sort of prank. Or they just really hated Typhlosion, I guess.Lv 69 - Double Edge, another completely pointless addition to Typhlosion's moveset.Lv 74 - Burn Up. We already have Blast Burn. Pass.Lv 82 - What the fuck kind of Pokemon learns a move at EIGHTY TWO!? Seriously. But anyway, here we get Eruption, Typhlosion's last move. I really don't know what to think of this, but I mean, it sure would have been nice to learn some other special Fire moves earlier on than packing all of them together in the endgame/postgame, eh?So, as I mentioned before... There is yet another problem with Typhlosion's movepool - There aren't any special based Fire moves obtainable via TM until almost the end of the game. Well, you can get Sunny Day and Will O Wisp, but that's not really what I'm talking about. Flamethrower isn't available via TM until Vast Poni Canyon, which is almost the end of the game and you may have already learned Flamethrower by leveling up by this point. Fire Blast is bought in the Seafolk Village Pokemon Center, which is once again on Poni Island, practically right at the end of the game. Overheat can't be obtained via TM until the postgame in Poni Meadow. And no, Typhlosion can't really learn any other useful offensive special-based moves of other types via TM, so he lacks any kind of type diversity in his moveset.tl;dr: Typhlosion sucks in Sun/Moon, having a 33 level drought between 10 and 43 where he doesn't learn a single Special-based Fire move, and only being able to be taught anything useful between then at level 36 via move tutor that will only teach him Fire Pledge/Blast Burn once he has reached his final stage. And then he learns Rollout at 61 for some reason. via /r/pokemon https://ift.tt/2K1ZGNj
"I'm just gonna rant for a moment about how bad Typhlosion's movepool is in Sun/Moon and why using him has been an absolute chore."
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