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"A look at the Generation 5 Raid Meta Impacts (With a focus on Draft)"


#PokemonGO: Gen 5 has been discussed here and there already but I wanted to take some time to highlight the levels at which Gen 5 will impact the raid meta and more interestingly, the raid draft meta.  Draft, unlike normal raiding, requires players to explore beyond the top 3-6 spots in the DPS charts.  Often times, drafts will cover the top 10 and sometimes as far as the top 20-30 depending on how much one expects to need a specfic type of attacker.  I decided to make some charts that incorporate the new Gen 5 pokemon (Bolded) to showcase how much could change.Methodology:I employed the use of gamepress's DPS/TDO chart and their custom mods to display future pokemon and possible moves.  For each type chart, I matched the attackers vs expected/past legendaries or common raid bosses.  I tried to make one of the bosses double weak to the type in question and the other raid boss single weak.  When choosing what to include per chart, I opted to only use Pokemon with a charge move that matched the typing (sorry Bite Salamence) and in regards to the Gen 5 Pokemon, I only went with STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus) moves.  There are a few exceptions to this but only in instances where the majority of naturally learned moves in the main games fit the non-STAB type (ex: Klinklang as an electric attacker).  Base sorting for the tables may look a little off at first and that is due to the fact that I sorted them based on a weighted average between the two displayed DPS charts but did not include that average as it is not truely meaningful numbers, just a good way to account for fast moves that do not fit the type. For those on the desktop version, you should be able to sort by column of choice by clicking the header. (May need RES, not sure)Since all of the numbers are in the form of DPS (Damage per Second), here is a heplful chart to remember what these might translate to as far as time to win.TierDPS to SoloDPS to DuoDPS to TrioDPS to Quad5    50.00       25.00      16.67       12.50       4    50.00       25.00      16.67       12.50       3    20.00       10.00      6.67        5.00        2    10.00       5.00       3.33        2.50        1    3.33        1.67       1.11        0.83        FirePokemon    Fast Move         Charge Move  Genesect:DPS    TDO    DPS3 *TDOCobalion:DPS    TDO   DPS3 *TDOReshiram   Fire Fang         Overheat               41.0471551.5107297.2            22.704851.69965.6    ChandelureFire Spin         Overheat               40.4551095.972555.3             22.465838.69507      Blaziken   Fire Spin         Blast Burn             40.365923.4  60725.7             22.226534.75871      Volcarona  Fire Spin         Overheat               40.1461182.476507.5             22.185699.87641.6    DarmanitanFire Fang         Overheat               39.745903.8  56745.2             21.999530.65648.7    Emboar     Ember             Blast Burn             38.5921009.258005.7             21.231584   5589.3    Moltres    Fire Spin         Overheat               38.4131129.764036.5             21.231700.96707.7    Charizard  Fire Spin         Blast Burn             37.442957.2  50243.7             20.576590.65144.8    Infernape  Fire Spin         Blast Burn             37.353877.1  45709.5             20.582508.24431.3    Flareon    Fire Spin         Overheat               36.974900.2  45503.7             20.468528.24529.2    Entei      Fire Spin         Overheat               36.6071278.262707.1             20.222748.46189.3    TyphlosionEmber             Blast Burn             35.574948.5  42700.6             19.607554.14176.7    Heatran    Fire Spin         Fire Blast             35.3751633.872324.2             19.558827   6186.7    Magmortar  Fire Spin         Fire Punch             34.67  896.7  37367.9             19.127524.43669.1    Arcanine   Fire Fang         Flamethrower          33.052937.9  33865.9             18.279549.83358.2    Houndoom   Fire Fang         Flamethrower          32.616702.8  24385.7             18.132363   2163.8    Salamence  Fire Fang         Fire Blast             31.778779.8  25023.7             17.644569.13125.6    Simisear   Fire Spin         Overheat               31.465647.3  20163.4             17.45  380.62022.3    Heatmor    Fire Spin         Overheat               31.466684.7  21333.2             17.44  402.42134.6    Ho-Oh      Hidden Power FireFire Blast             30.6291218.735019.1             16.916754.73652.9    Mewtwo     Psycho Cut        Flamethrower          28.865642.8  15459.5             17.927607.93502.4    Rapidash   Fire Spin         Fire Blast             29.006645.7  15757.9             16.095379.81583.4    Magmar     Ember             Flamethrower          28.258601.2  13566.4             15.651353   1353.4    Camerupt   Ember             Overheat               27.402565.3  11631.1             15.27  352.51254.9    Important Notes: Darmanitan has two forms, it's standard form (listed) and Zen Forme which loses a little attack but has much higher defenses and gains psychic as a secondary typing.  Simisear (and the other elemental monkeys) can learn the signature starter moves (Blast Burn, etc.) however I did not use those moves for these charts as we do not know how likely that is to occur.RockPokemon      Fast Move         Charge Move   Moltres:DPS    TDO    DPS3 *TDOReshiram:DPS    TDO   DPS3 *TDORampardos    Smack Down        Rock Slide             46.843922.1  94781.9             25.961350.26128      Archeops     Rock Throw        Rock Slide             46.781836.4  85633               25.716370.26295.6    Terrakion    Smack Down        Rock Slide             40.4721326.687941.3             22.487492   5594.5    Tyranitar    Smack Down        Stone Edge             37.1581328.368148.1             20.42  510.24343.9    Aerodactyl   Rock Throw        Rock Slide             36.042760    35583.3             19.888337.82656.8    Rhyperior    Smack Down        Stone Edge             35.9681445.567264.3             19.865502.43938.5    Gigalith     Smack Down        Rock Slide             35.4431094.848743.7             19.663417.63174.5    Archen       Rock Throw        Rock Slide             34.028339.2  13364.6             18.438147.8926.8     Omastar      Rock Throw        Rock Slide             33.1281204.343782.5             18.49  352   2225.1    Golem        Rock Throw        Stone Edge             32.4311042.635564.4             17.804360.32033.5    Alolan GolemRock Throw        Stone Edge             32.436974.7  33261.8             17.798349   1967.6    Carracosta   Rock Throw        Rock Slide             30.97  1147   34071.5             17.322335.91745.7    Crustle      Smack Down        Rock Slide             30.127513    14028.2             16.494284.71277.2    Lunatone     Rock Throw        Rock Slide             29.587744.9  19293.7             16.474286.71282.1    Solrock      Rock Throw        Rock Slide             29.587744.9  19293.7             16.474286.71282.1    Aggron       Smack Down        Stone Edge             29.346770.4  19470.5             16.077387.31609.6    Rayquaza     Dragon Tail       Ancient Power         28.52  687.1  15939.9             19.975365.92916      Boldore      Smack Down        Rock Slide             27.956558.2  12196.9             15.446211.6779.8     Regirock     Rock Throw        Stone Edge             27.8571227.326531.6             15.364467   1693.6    Melmetal     Thunder Shock     Rock Slide             28.507556.4  12888.7             14.47  380.51152.9    Sudowoodo    Rock Throw        Rock Slide             27.556662.7  13865.6             15.288252.5902.4     Important notes: Archeops and Rampardos are so close in DPS that they sometimes switch spots based on breakpoints.BugPokemon    Fast Move    Charge MoveHoopa U:DPS    TDO   DPS3 *TDOMewtwo:DPS    TDO   DPS3 *TDOVolcarona  Bug Bite     Bug Buzz             34.527706.229066.6           24.767531.68076.4    Genesect   Bug Bite     X-Scissor            33.111689.425025.6           24.035414.85759.8    Pinsir     Bug Bite     X-Scissor            31.58  485   15277             22.784340   4021.6    Yanmega    Bug Bite     Bug Buzz             30.815485.614208.7           22.243304.73353.1    Scizor     Fury Cutter  X-Scissor            30.615578.516600.1           22.27  348.83852.5    EscavalierBug Bite     X-Scissor            29.643577   15029.3           21.534347.43469      Accelgor   Bug Bite     Bug Buzz             29.426358.39130.1            21.19  250.72385.5    Scyther    Fury Cutter  X-Scissor            28.748425.911814.1           20.855268.62436.1    Durant     Bug Bite     X-Scissor            28.721498.711814.1           20.833299.82711.2    Leavanny   Bug Bite     X-Scissor            27.876412.98944.7            20.21  260.52149.9    GalvantulaBug Bite     X-Scissor            27.378335.36881              19.774239.41851.2    Scolipede  Bug Bite     X-Scissor            27.29  354.77208.5            19.742230   1769.7    Heracross  Struggle BugMegahorn             25.875404   6998.5            18.454256.41611.2    Ninjask    Fury Cutter  Bug Buzz             25.635239.44032.5            18.334148.8916.8     Crustle    Bug Bite     X-Scissor            25.47  453.57494.3            18.408321.12002.6    Mothim     Bug Bite     Bug Buzz             24.676224.43372.3            17.636139.4764.6     Venomoth   Bug Bite     Bug Buzz             24.091287   4013.2            17.364185.4970.6     Beautifly  Infestation  Bug Buzz             23.689195.92603.8            16.724120.2562       Beedrill   Bug Bite     X-Scissor            23.32  242.93080.7            16.868157.5755.8     Parasect   Bug Bite     X-Scissor            22.701261.23055.9            16.433164.5730       Important notes: There are some huge additions to Bug type attackers!  While normally a forgotten type in draft, with these newcomers, Bug may be a good option as a Psychic, Dark, or Grass counter.  X-Scissor is listed for almost all new Bugs as most can learn it however it is very likely some will not receive it.  That being said, Bug Buzz is usally just behind in DPS and is learned by many!GroundPokemon                  Fast Move           Charge MoveHeatran:DPS    TDO    DPS3 *TDOZekrom:DPS    TDO   DPS3 *TDOLandorus Therian Forme   Mud Shot            Earth Power         38.925845.3  49850.2           24.549579.88578.1    Landorus Incarnate FormeMud Shot            Earth Power         35.352779.3  34431.3           22.314535   5944      Excadrill                Mud-Slap            Earth Power         35.477639.4  28553.1           21.898563.25913.3    Krookodile               Mud-Slap            Earth Power         31.258662.2  20224.3           19.647459.73486.1    Groudon                  Mud Shot            Earthquake           30.656889    25614.2           19.55  601.94497      Golurk                   Mud-Slap            Earth Power         30.193625.7  17222.1           18.994432.92966.5    Garchomp                 Mud Shot            Earthquake           30.02  1064.728803.8           19.139517.83630      Mamoswine                Mud-Slap            Bulldoze             30.209438.6  12090.5           18.723393.52582.9    Rhyperior                Mud-Slap            Earthquake           28.203859.6  19281.7           17.871523.92990      Seismitoad               Mud Shot            Earth Power         25.944820.5  14327             16.827385   1834.2    Nidoking                 Fury Cutter         Earth Power         25.29  496.4  8030              17.232344.51762.6    Rhydon                   Mud-Slap            Earthquake           25.991671.4  11789.2           16.465409   1825.6    Donphan                  Mud-Slap            Earthquake           24.864601.5  9246.5            15.777405.11591.2    Golem                    Mud-Slap            Earthquake           24.393594.8  8632.8            15.493363.41351.3    Swampert                 Mud Shot            Earthquake           24.282852.6  12207.6           15.506394.41470.4    Alolan Dugtrio           Mud-Slap            Mud Bomb             23.873229.7  3125.3            15.185208.4729.7     Gastrodon                Hidden Power GroundEarth Power         23.574746.3  9777.4            15.215348.41227.1    Flygon                   Mud Shot            Earthquake           23.652597.6  7906.4            15.008289   976.8     Aerodactyl               Rock Throw          Earth Power         21.791356.4  3687.5            15.551224.4843.7     Hippowdon                Fire Fang           Earth Power         22.826650.4  7735.3            14.399435.51299.9    Camerupt                 Ember               Earth Power         22.119439.1  4751.2            14.149220.6624.7     Important Notes: Another oft forgotten type as it is usually not fast enough to keep up unless the boss is electric, Ground will see a lot of new faces!  It is unlikely that every new Pokemon gets Earth Power so some may drop a decent amount.FlyingPokemon                  Fast Move           Charge MoveVirizion:DPS    TDO    DPS3 *TDOKeldeo:DPS    TDO   DPS3 *TDOArcheops                 Wing Attack         Sky Attack            40.358892.2  58646.2           30.361427.211955.6   Moltres                  Wing Attack         Sky Attack            34.5661392.857521.6           26.518519.39683.5    Honchkrow                Peck                Sky Attack            33.64  760.1  28934.2           25.572371.86218.2    Braviary                 Wing Attack         Sky Attack            32.7371034   36276.6           24.846516.57921.7    Rayquaza                 Air Slash           Aerial Ace            31.6841309.341647.1           23.899627   8558.1    Unfezant                 Air Slash           Sky Attack            30.784801.3  23377.6           23.22  397.74979.1    Tornadus Incarnate FormeAir Slash           Hurricane             30.416950.1  26734.3           22.451456   5160.4    Sigilyph                 Air Slash           Sky Attack            27.587870.1  18268.2           20.791417.83755.2    Tornadus Therian Forme   Air Slash           Hurricane             27.418972.4  20041.7           20.283468.33907.7    Yanmega                  Wing Attack         Aerial Ace            26.181900.1  16152.5           19.874399.33134.2    Staraptor                Wing Attack         Brave Bird            26.292685.2  12453.4           19.437333.22446.6    Swellow                  Wing Attack         Sky Attack            26.185489.5  8788.1            19.456240.21793.6    Swanna                   Wing Attack         Sky Attack            26.138542.7  9691.9            19.447379.52791.5    Zapdos                   Thunder Shock       Drill Peck            25.7031002.117016.9           23.21  584.97312.5    Chatot                   Peck                Sky Attack            25.569426.5  7130.2            19.112209.21460.8    Togekiss                 Air Slash           Aerial Ace            25.3161148.618635.9           19.067544.93777.4    Ho-Oh                    Hidden Power FlyingBrave Bird            25.4061381.222649.8           18.895501.83385.1    Lugia                    Extrasensory        Sky Attack            23.5691698.622240.4           20.45  946.58094.8    Fearow                   Peck                Sky Attack            24.888518    7985.6            18.649255.31655.6    Scyther                  Air Slash           Aerial Ace            24.688796.8  11989.5           18.636351.82277.3    Archen                   Wing Attack         Sky Attack            24.534302.8  4472.2            18.091141.8839.6     Dragonite                Dragon Tail         Hurricane             21.109982    9237.2            19.12  565.63953.8    Swoobat                  Air Slash           Sky Attack            22.421500    5635.3            16.841238.61139.8    Xatu                     Air Slash           Aerial Ace            22.054575.4  6171.5            16.59  275.51257.7    Important Notes: Flying has also been lacking, not due to strong attackers but simply due to depth.  Gen 5 should bring about many new faces to help fill out the options.  Fun fact, Tornadus Therian is the only Therian forme with worse attack than the Incarnate forme.Continued in comments...please let me know if formatting is off, I'm working from mobile so I can only see what the RedditIsFun app displays via /r/TheSilphRoad https://ift.tt/32ZYeEN
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